• scarabic@lemmy.world
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    “Some people are just bad” is a core conservative belief. They don’t believe in harm reduction for drug addicts. In fact they want the harm to happen, and ideally for it to be fatal. Because these people are bad, so let’s get rid of them.

    They have the same mentality about criminal justice. Some people are just bad - criminals. Give them the death penalty. They don’t want to talk about rehabilitation or small improvements to the recidivism rate. Some people are just bad, they think, so lock em up and throw away the key.

    Of course, most conservatives have either done drugs or committed a crime, but the whole “some people are just bad” concept never applies to themselves in their own minds. Because some people are just good too, and doing bad things doesn’t change that.

    So, conveniently, they themselves can get away with any kind of wrongdoing, forever. But a single transgression by another person is a good justification to simply end their fucking life.

    It’s such hypocritical, violent, hateful mentality. Humans have succeeded as a species by coming together and looking after one another. This mentality is positively inhuman.

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      If it’s a family member or loved one who commits a crime, they’re “misguided” or “have a good heart”.

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        I worked for a medium sized refrigeration contractor company. The owner’s son was a massive opiate and coke addict and kept stealing equipment, embezzling and had no less than 2 ODs on company property.

        The second time I was tasked to bring him his new phone in the hospital as he had sold his original one for the drugs he overdosed on.

        I sat there and synched it up to his SIM and got to watch all the texts from his family pour in

        All about ‘our little druggie boy’ and wishing him quick recovery and the most gentle and humorous of chiding

        Two weeks before they had fired my friend, a single father, for testing positive for weed

        Guess who the owner voted for

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        Yes and God will help! The second they get into mixed territory like that, they run to religion for help. “Love the sinner” blah blah. Just don’t ask them to be a good Christian to immigrants and prisoners, like Christ said to.

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      I’ve had people (family) argue that drug use increases crime, and by providing things like safe injection sites or narcan you’re encouraging more drug use and inviting more crime by removing the consequences.

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        they’re not completely wrong, but wishing death upon people is still utterly insane

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        This was one of Rush Limbaugh’s biggest drug talking points, one that he pushed again and again

        All while secretly addicted to opiates

        I guarantee you his rhetoric led to preventable deaths

        The hypocrisy of the modern repugnican party is grounds for violence

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        Oversimplified foolishness isn’t really what I’d call a core conservative value. It’s more just the way they roll. They roll based on their gut feelings 99.9% of the time.

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    Yeah all that is or already was in the chopping block and on it’s way to the chipper.

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      Good. They don’t need narcan.

      They need a healthy diet, the power of God, and a $20,000-40,000/month rehab clinic.

      Hell, instead of sending kids to high school with our failing public education system, why don’t we send them straight to rehab? The debt they accrue will motivate them to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and get a job at the factory

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        If anybody is thinking of downvoting the above comment, they’re being sarcastic to highlight the point.

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          The fact that this needs to be pointed out makes me sad. I remember a time when it would have been obvious. There was a time when if someone said something over the top, and absurd, it was known to be sarcasm.

          Now we have a president who says things like “THEY’RE EATING THE CATS AND DOGS!!!” and a large, maybe even majority, percent of the population just nod and accept it as fact. Because despite being 100% false, it was said with the intention to be treated as fact.

          This is just one example, but this is how society is now. People just saying the dumbest shit, and others nodding along.

          So when a comment like that is posted, a lot of people WON’T get the sarcasm, because there ARE people who would legitimately say these things. So now it needs to be pointed out.

          We live in the dumbest timeline.

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    Weird this billionaire owned news source is telling us this just as we ended the Narcan program, shifting the tide back in the bad direction again

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      Because, as the article mentions, the overdose deaths figures were just released? The article also mentions the budget you’re referring to—which hasn’t passed yet—and has a link to an article exactly about that aspect.

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        The last batch of figures showed the same thing months ago.

        This trend was already shifting. Showing these stats right as we make changes that will negatively effect them feels disingenuous

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          This trend was already shifting

          Without the complete provisional data through the years’ end, Vox could not conclude that “some 27,000 fewer Americans died of a drug overdose in 2024 than in 2023. That year-on-year drop is the steepest single-year decline since the government first began keeping track of overdose deaths 45 years ago. It means that drug deaths are now finally coming back down to pre-pandemic levels — and that we can make progress on what can seem like the most intractable social ills.”

          right as we make changes

          The proposed budget has not passed yet. A headline mentioning “Naloxone program that turned tide on overdoses cut by new budget” will go out if/once it passes with that provision, and it cannot go out before, since otherwise the changes haven’t been made and there’s a chance it won’t. Like I’ve mentioned, a linked article already discusses how the budget provision will cut naloxone programs more.

          disingenuous

          How is it misrepresenting anything? The entire article is about the precise narcan program methods the article attributes the success to with a clear message that it should continue and is being threatened by the proposed budget.